On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Ranjan Maitra <maitra@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:04:36 -0500 Tom H <tomh0665@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 1:16 PM, stan <gryt2@xxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> Now, there can be many reasons for that: >>> - the traffic has been split to more specific lists >>> - people are using other means to get help, such as forums and chat >>> - Fedora has become so easy to use there aren't as many issues raised >>> - people are voting with their feet and deserting Fedora >> >> I don't think that you can blame GNOME 3 for that drop off; not yet >> anyway. Ubuntu's had pretty much the same interface up to now. >> >> Come F15, I'll be giving up on GNOME (not because I don't like it; I, >> in fact, like the new look, etc but because I want to vote against the >> developers' tone deafness) and giving XFCE and LXDE a try - on Fedora. >> >> I think that we can blame Ubuntu/Mint for the drop-off (to what >> extent, I have no idea). And apart from its good PR and cutesy name, >> I'd put it down to the fact that it's easier to install proprietary >> drivers and other non-free stuff. > > I agree with your view that Ubuntu has good PR and easy-to-install > proprietary drivers and other non-free stuff, but I am not sure it is > that great anymore. Many of their releases languish without updates for > far longer than Fedora, in my experience. Ubuntu is designed to make > the switch from Windoze to be as painless as possible, and they > probably achieve that. I'm pretty sure that if you checked equivalent releases, Fedora *might* have vers x.(y+1) where Ubuntu has vers x.y but the overall experience would basically be the same. > Speaking of which, I am not exactly comfortable with why Fedora (or > Ubuntu) allow any user to install updates using PackageKit without any > root access (or sudo password). I feel that this is not really right > from a security point of view.... I don't think that Ubuntu's ever had this issue and I'm pretty sure (I hope!) that only F12 had it, very briefly. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines