I am currently using a full desktop environment (Gnome) but am considering using instead a window manager. There are dozens of them around, so I have been exploring and comparing. I noticed that for many of the window managers that I install in Debian (examples: fluxbox, openbox, awesome) there is an application menu tree that can be easily accessed with the mouse from the desktop, and this tree has - as far as I can tell - the same applications in the Gnome menu, though usually organized differently. If I install the same window managers in Fedora I do not get the menu tree. I like the way things work in Debian because this means less work is needed in creating menus for some rarely used applications (for programs that I use often I don't mind spending some time to create some sort of launcher). I tried to understand how the window managers in Debian get the application menus. It seems that it all happens as result of a Debian package called "menu", which keeps the menus automagically up-to-date for the window managers that bother to look at them with tools such as "update-menus" and "install-menu". I looked through Fedora packages and I have not found anything equivalent, but maybe I missed it. Any ideas? -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines