Re: SeLinux, should I disable it?

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Am 2011-01-23 00:12, schrieb Temlakos:
> On 01/22/2011 05:53 PM, peter_someone wrote:
>> Am 2011-01-22 22:20, schrieb Marko Vojinovic:
>>> On Saturday 22 January 2011 15:03:46 Parshwa Murdia wrote:
>>>> After I install F14 (KDE), how should I disable SeLinux? Because more
>>>> of the time it gives alerts and it is highly technical in nature to
>>>> understand the SeLinux (for a normal person, not from computers).
>>> No you should not disable it. It is there to protect your system, and if you
>>> are not a technical person, leave it as it is and don't mess with it.
>>>
>>> Also, if you are using your computer just for ordinary desktop stuff, you
>>> should never see any alerts.
>>>
>>> You might provoke alerts if you are setting up servers or custom 3rd party
>>> software or messing around the filesystem with root privileges. However, in all
>>> those circumstances you are expected to be a non-beginner, to know what you
>>> are doing, and to be able to resolve any SELinux alerts as they come (or ask
>>> someone for help). Otherwise SELinux should Just Work (tm), and you should not
>>> see any issues with it.
>>>
>>> HTH, :-)
>>> Marko
>>>
>> I do wonder though - lots of distros don't use SELinux. Do they (say,
>> Debian) use something else instead? Meaning: can I assume that if I
>> disable SELinux and install I don't gufw or somethign equally simple
>> that Fedora will be less secure than before but still just as safe as
>> the next distro?
>>
>> greetings,
>> peter
> I wouldn't.
>
> If you are getting alerts, try the SELinux management tool. Better to
> allow those things that you are sure are safe for you to do, than to
> disable SELinux entirely.
>
> When Fedora first offered SELinux, its management was clunky. Today it
> is seamless, or nearly so.
>
> Actually, you should address your questions to the Fedora SELinux list.
> They take questions of this kind all the time. They'll ask you to
> specify what, exactly, you were doing, and the nature of the alert. Then
> they'll tell you how to work around it. (Though quite often they'll ask
> you why you are using some apparently misbehaved software.)
>
> Understand this: security is all about whom do you trust, and what with,
> and how far.
>
> Understand this also: the developers of That Other OS seem to know
> nothing about security, and that's why their OS is so vulnerable that
> one hears of at least one breach a month.
>
> Take control of your system. A lot of folks here are ready to help you
> out. And Fedora's developers want to know the kinds of issues you're
> running into. If they didn't, then SELinux might have been abandoned
> long ago--but it has survived no less than twelve iterations. But they
> won't know unless you tell them--and "how do I disable such-a-thing" is
> not telling them; that's avoiding the issue. In this community, we face
> issues squarely, so that we have lasting solutions.
>
> Temlakos
Personally, I have no interest in disabling it anyway - i don't get 
alerts and have no problem otherwise. It was just a purely hypothetical 
question because I wonder how if SELinux is so essential most of the 
biggest linux-distros seem to completely neglect that fact.....


Peter
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