I solved it, mostly. My problem had several causes. 1) Somehow the router I thought I was using became disconnected. Thus it wasn't available to connect to. 2) When I looked closely, Windows computers were connecting to a different router, not the one I thought. Note to self, more descriptive router SSIDs ! 3) the KDE network manager plasmoid I had installed was from KDE-testing and hadn't been upgraded since November ish. 4) the KDE network manager plasmoid wasn't showing networks that required security or at all. Not sure what was happening here. I solved it with the following steps. 1) I traced the router problem until I encountered the unplugged device. Then the Windows computers could see the network I was after and connect to it. 2) I turned off network management for my wireless device. Configured it manually. This got things working, though apps like Evolution and Firefox wouldn't work because they expect a network manager managed connection and I didn't have one. However, I did have access to yum. 3) I removed the kde networkwork management plasmoid 4) I removed NetworkManager. 5) I rebooted. Now I had a wireless network connection and Evolution and Firefox worked correctly. I'll leave things set up like this for now. In the future I'll set up a network management system again, because its very handy when it works. I hope this helps someone. Thanks. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
