Hello, from test plan section inside features page of Fedora 12: "Verify that the cursors work independently. If both master devices are used in two different applications, they should work independently and simultaneously. If both devices are used in the same application, some restrictions apply. " The above is the test plan to verify multiple input devices work with legacy applications. To develop new XI2-capable applications, please see the XI2 man pages and the example programs below in #Documentation. " And in User experience section: "XI2 has no effect on the traditional desktop interface. Only applications that make use of the new APIs gain benefits. Users who explicitly create additional master devices (e.g. using the xinput tool) may be able to use their traditional desktop in a multi-user fashion to a limited extent. " And indeed it worked like this at F12 time... but without being able to do much practically. No other particular references in F13,F14 features pages... Now just installed F14 to see if any progress. The independent pointer functionality is here again, and I would like to do a "simple" test where : - I have my laptop monitor and an external monitor connected. - I use my trackpad and laptop keyboard to manage a window inside laptop monitor - Another user manage another window in external monitor, after connecting additional 1 usb mouse and 1 usb keyboard (ideal would be to have one user working in laptop monitor area with its input devices; another using external monitor area with the external input devices) $ xinput create-master zenmouse $ xinput reattach 20 16 --> external usb mouse $ xinput reattach 11 17 --\ external mac keyboard $ xinput reattach 21 17 --/ So after reattaching these two input devices to the newly create master named "zenmouse": [gcecchi ~]$ xinput list ⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2 [master pointer (3)] ⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4 [slave pointer (2)] ⎜ ↳ Broadcom Corp id=10 [slave pointer (2)] ⎜ ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad id=14 [slave pointer (2)] ⎣ Virtual core keyboard id=3 [master keyboard (2)] ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard id=5 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Video Bus id=6 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Power Button id=7 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Sleep Button id=8 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Broadcom Corp id=9 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Laptop Integrated Webcam id=12 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard id=13 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Dell WMI hotkeys id=15 [slave keyboard (3)] ⎡ zenmouse pointer id=16 [master pointer (17)] ⎜ ↳ zenmouse XTEST pointer id=18 [slave pointer (16)] ⎜ ↳ USB Optical Mouse id=20 [slave pointer (16)] ⎣ zenmouse keyboard id=17 [master keyboard (16)] ↳ zenmouse XTEST keyboard id=19 [slave keyboard (17)] ↳ Mitsumi Electric Apple Extended USB Keyboard id=11 [slave keyboard (17)] ↳ Mitsumi Electric Apple Extended USB Keyboard id=21 [slave keyboard (17)] I noticed this: - click with zenmouse pointer on the top window title bar (external monitor) to make it active: I can use the corresponding keyboard and at the same time - click with touchpad on the bottom window title bar (laptop monitor) to make it active: I can use the laptop keyboard in this window, while I'm using the other one cool! Some unwanted behaviours, just in these first tests: - unable to move at the same time the two windows (one in laptop monitor, the other on external one), each one with one different pointer - strange things when input areas intersects.... Questions: - Can I force one pair of keyboard+mouse to be able to move only inside a subregion of my display and the other one in another region (without intersection) In particular one pair confined inside the external monitor and the other one inside the laptop monitor? BTW: at this time I have configured the two monitors as one big (1280x800+1280x1024 one above the other) using Nvida TwinView fucntionality, but I can change it if necessary for better XI2/MPX configuration.... Is there any additional non-default configuration in gnome (2.32 in my case) and/or metacity to enhance XI2/MPX experience? Any additional fedora docs? Thanks for any (multi)-input.... Gianluca -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines