I have a usb to serial adapter on my PC. From time to time I attach a Garmin etrex GPS to it and transfer data using gpsbabel. This all works well and has done for years. F14 (and probably older versions) includes gpsd. Possibly this works better - I've not tried it. I use KDE and kde depends on it, so it has to stay. Unfortunately gpsd comes with /lib/udev/gpsd.hotplug.wrapper. This is a shell script which includes this: wait_for_file() { [ -e "$1" ] && return 0 local count=0 while sleep 1; do count=$(( $count + 1 )) [ -e "$1" ] && return 0 if [ $count -gt 60 ]; then return 1 fi done } # wait for /usr & /var to be mounted wait_for_file /usr/bin/python && \ wait_for_file /var/run && \ exec /lib/udev/gpsd.hotplug "$ACTION" "$DEVNAME" This script as executed by the udev startup process on every boot. Of course it always fails, but only after a 60 second delay. Maybe there are occasions when /usr/bin/python or /var/run will appear during the execution of this script, but I can't think of any - and it certainly isn't the case at boot time. My system is switched off when it's not being used, so I tend to notice any boot delays. I think I should raise a bug for this, but I'm not certain what to suggest for a solution. I think replacing the last part as follows should work: [ -e "/usr/bin/python" ] && [ -e "/var/run" ] && exec /lib/udev/gpsd.hotplug "$ACTION" "$DEVNAME" Alternatively gpsd could be split up into the libraries (needed by kde) and the udev stuff (only needed if you plug in a gps). Comments? Regards, Chris -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines