Last time I even looked at KDE, it was release 2 or 3, more likely the former. It didn't appeal to me, and I abandoned it. Now at least two distributions (Kororaa and PC-BSD) run KDE4 by default -- and it bewilders me. Ten to one I never really get serious -- I have too much hard- earned experience invested in Gnome -- but I do want to manage well enough, if I can, to explore my interest in those and maybe other choices. (Anybody run Knoppix installed to hard drive??) Someday, maybe, some kind soul will port one or more of them to Gnome; then it'd be nice to know at once whether to run not walk to the new version. Is there something like a primer somewhere, pointing out the basics to those old enough to know better, but entirely innocent of them? I'm thinking of things like running Gnome's Workspace-switcher, or an equivalent if KDE 4 has one, just to get started. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines