On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Chris Smart <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Indeed, and just look at what they did with OpenSolaris. Dead. Solaris was a niche, even for Sun. I saw it on Sun Tech Days were talks about Netbeans had much more attendance than "OpenSolaris" for that matter. I don't blame Oracle for trying to monetize that corporate unix platform. IBM, RedHat, HP are all for-profit corporations,you know. >Look at > what they're doing with Java Supporting OpenJDK, stating that JDK 7 and 8 will be contributed back to the open source project, and enrolling IBM into OpenJDK too. Plus, supporting Netbeans going forward (in addition to having its own in-house Freeware IDE, JDeveloper). Supporting Glassfish, and investing in MySQL... > Look at what > they've done with the formerly free OpenOffice.org plugin for MS > Office - no longer free. The right way to convince people to use ODF is to make Microsoft XML formats more expensive. If you want to go with Microsoft's XML file formats, you have to either pay to MS, or pay for the plug-in. If someone thinks that validating Microsoft Office default file formats is a way to advance ODF that's fine. But I don't share that view. In short: according to former Sun employees, Sun had around 100 people working on OpenOffice.org. 30 of those left and went to work with LibreOffice. That's 30% of the work force. Sounds to me like OpenOffice.org still has got the edge. And as I said, I think Java hooks in the OpenOffice.org were the right way to go. Someone has already stated on this thread that LibreOffice has plans to ditch java and go native code. That is not what I like. That's why I plan to continue using and promoting OpenOffice.org, instead of LO, and that's why I asked a simple question of having RedHat and Fedora support both, giving users a choice. THEN it'll be the users who decide what's best. I didn't want to start a flame war on the merits or dismerits of Oracle's contributions to the FOSS world. FC -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines