Every download site I've tried -- several, especially fedoraproject ones -- comes up on a search for F12, but the minute I click on a link, it sneaks in F13. This is offensive. How do override it? I've *got* 13 on most machines, and regret it all day, every day. I ever tried preupgrade to F 14 beta -- in vain. It preserved the misery I'm trying to escape. All can see left is to revert to 12, if I have to DBAN each machine and install 12 from scratch; make sure it's right; and preupgrade to F 14 in November. But I seem to have deleted both my F12 ISO and the DVD I had burned of it. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines