On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:35 AM, g <geleem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 08/24/2010 06:41 PM, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > <snip> > > > if you read back thru post, you will see that i did post a '+1' to point > made that i fully agree with and did not see need to write them all > over again. i respect your opinions, but, what is said - by you or by other users - doesn't help. you are just blowing away the whole idea. > > personally, see no benefit of adding something else to desktop that will > somewhere along the line be a potential problem. especially when desktops, > ie, kde, are always changing and in changing, breaking. that's why i didn't create a plasmoid & sent it to the fedora admins. the idea is a desktop independent application, why? because i'm using d-bus which is being used be all the desktops. > > therefore, to insure that users are notified, notices should be sent thru > list subscriptions. > > i subscribe to user, announce, xen, admin, redhat security, and kde list > and i am considering subscribing to dev list. > > in so doing, i do keep up with most of what is happening and i see no > reason why notifications can not be cross posted to list to inform one > and all when needed. > > nor do i see any reason that there would be any complaints of such cross > posting by subscribers of list. > > something that you may not have given consideration to, what happens > when a fedora user has fedora system off for a few days of he is using > another distribution and is still reading his emails and something > critical comes up like an exploit that can wipe entire installation as > soon as he runs a program that has a time delayed bomb in it and this > bomb is set for while he is out of fedora? > > very simple, he loses everything. why, because he was running a distrib > that was unaware and he did not get notified because notification did not > come via email. > > this to me is a big flaw in a very fine distribution. great point. > > there is nothing wrong with your concept if you not only have a > notification system and an email notification and ability to disable > notification system. > > another plus would be if notification system was designed to watch for > emails with a key in them that would trigger notification system to pop > up a notice on desktop, as long as feature had ability to disable. > > another flaw in automatic checking is what would happen if crazies decided > to run a DoS for url that check is made thru. in so running DoS, they > intercept and respond with a bogus 'all clear' of send a false 'danger' > with an update notice. then when user tries to run update, another DoS is > running against url for updates and another intercept is set up to download > some form of malware or bomb. > > yes, this is a lot of 'what ifs', but what if it was done? > > therefore, i still say, *BAD IDEA*. it gains nothing. it's not because i hate you - i don't even know your name ;) - but i'm going to continue this, because i think at the end we will know whether it will be able to solve such problems or not --not now. > > in closing, thank you for posting 'text/plain'. now your post will be > easier to follow and read by others who trap 'text/html'. > you are most welcome. > -- > > peace out. > > tc,hago. > > g > . > > **** > in a free world without fences, who needs gates. > ** > help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. > ** > to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. > to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. > ** > learn linux: > 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html > 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ > 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html > 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ > **** > > i -- Regards,, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad @meGenius -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines