Chris Smart wrote: > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> It's getting so keeping systems up to date with current patches is >> incompatible with reasonable uptime goals. More and more upgrades >> require a reboot, and even reading the CVE data behind the update it's >> not always possible to tell if a fix is urgent. I'd like to encourage a >> bit more detail in the info with the upgrade, and a little more thought >> about what can be done to reduce reboots. > > It looks like Ksplice integration is already complete for Fedora 14: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Ksplice_Uptrack_rebootless_updates > > "Keep Fedora's kernel up-to-date without rebooting. This uses the > Ksplice Uptrack service to update the running kernel in memory, > boosting security, availability and convenience by making it possible > to stay on top of important kernel updates without the disruption of a > reboot... The service is already operational in a preview for Fedora > 13, and will begin supplying Fedora 14's kernel updates as soon as the > kernel stabilizes." > That's good news, although IIRC I used to kexec to address that problem. The issue is the changes to udev, NetworkManager, libraries, etc, etc, seem to be flagged as needing a reboot. I can see why a logout might be needed to get X to whatever imitation of sanity it is doing today, but more "other stuff" seems to require reboot. Glad someone is looking at this, thanks for the input. -- Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines