Since I am a heavy gnome desktop user, I decided to take a look at KDE. The first thing I tried to do was to figure out how to move the bottom panel to the top, and I tried to drag and move it, but in the process, I "peeled" something out from the bottom and I unexpectedly dropped it into the middle of the screen... it appeared as a partial window, there was only the title bar and what appeared to be, a 1/4" semi-window with no content and it was not a complete box encapsulation, it looked like two sticks on the left and right. I tried to put this "panel" back into the bottom panel, to no avail, giving up, I ended up deleting it. I noted that the bottom panel was not looking the same from its default. What I would like to do is to restore/reset the desktop back to a first time user. Is this possible? Some say to delete the .kde4 in the user's home directory but on F13, I only see .kde, not .kde3 nor .kde4, so I am assuming that F13 by default is probably KDE 3? As noted, I have amarok and perhaps other kde apps in gnome so it is perhaps not a good idea to simply blow away the .kde directory nor to simply rename the .kde to something else and expect to recover my gnome & kde configurations, piecewise? In particular, I definitely do not want to mess up my gnome settings, but since I am new to KDE, all I care is to figure out how to restore KDE to its new user defaults and proceed to learn how to configure KDE to my taste. Any advice? -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines