-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/08/2010 12:43 AM, Ulrich Drepper wrote: > On 08/07/2010 06:59 AM, Robert Nichols wrote: >> Pages newly allocated by the kernel will be zeroed. They begin life as >> a copy-on-write mmap() of /dev/zero. > > Mostly true although /dev/zero hasn't played a role in this for many > years now. > > Anonymous memory returned by mmap must be cleared. Memory provided by > sbrk can be cleared and it is on Linux. > > This is all rather problematic nowadays since it means many unnecessary > memory operations, in general. There have been lots of talks about > relaxing the rules for sbrk and adding an mmap flag to avoid the > clearing. This can easily be accommodated in the userlevel > implementation and lead to big improvements. > > > >> Once you have used and freed >> memory from those pages, however, that memory will not be re-zeroed. > > It's only guaranteed to be cleared upon reused, not directly after they > are freed. > > >> If a subsequent malloc() happens to grab that same memory you will see >> the old contents. It will, however, be data written there by the >> current process. > > Perhaps a bit strong: no memory freed with free() must be assumed to be > cleared. Only when the memory is returned to the kernel will it before > the next use be cleared. It is probably worth mentioning that in general free() does *NOT* return memory back to the kernel. so, in general, freeing and then malloc() -- if malloc() happens to chose memory previously used by the application, and free'd, then the newly malloc'd memory would have the previous contents. - -Greg > Everything else would be a big performance issue. > > You can see it yourself by using MALLOC_PERTURB_. It's really a > debugging tool to find call site which depend on malloc clearing memory > and use memory after fgreeing. But it obviously it's also useful for > scrubbing memory. > - -- +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ Please also check the log file at "/dev/null" for additional information. (from /var/log/Xorg.setup.log) | Greg Hosler ghosler@xxxxxxxxxx | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxeH+4ACgkQ404fl/0CV/SknwCg2FPAndkv+82f954f+lmxgwVH 3hwAoKxIZWuLu0KwENS0DEv/LVeyxh6x =eEnr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines