Tim: >> I don't use the webmail service, it could be a cause of your >> problem. I merely send messages to the list using a yahoo >> address in my "from" field. I receive mail sent to another >> address, that has nothing to do with Yahoo. Antonio Olivares: > How do you get to do this? I would like to learn how to do it :) > and avoid the ADS, the messages that new yahoo mail cannot be loaded > and other bull that i see from time to time. It's quite simple, technically. I am subscribed with that yahoo address, but I have the list set to not send list mail to it (it would waste bandwidth). I put that yahoo address into one of the accounts configured in Evolution, so it can be used as one of my "from" addresses (you can do the same thing with other mail clients). I post to the list using that address, and anybody who tries to spam it gets nowhere, as I've configured my yahoo account for that address to automatically delete all incoming mail without a special password in the subject line. I receive mail from the list with another subscription, to an address that I don't tell anyone else, or any thing, what it is. Because of that, it can't receive spam from anyone who's gone around harvesting email addresses (it's not available anywhere to be harvested), they could only spam it by accident. When I reply to a message, it's posted using the other "from" address. The receiving address could be yahoo, but some local Yahoo portals don't let you access mail via POP3, only the website. It could be any mail service, including your ISP's. And since it's not an address that you tell anyone about, it doesn't matter if you have to change it (unlike changing address that you want people to contact you at, where you have to tell them about any changes). While that sounds convoluted to explain, it's simple to use, and avoids having to tear your hair out trying to get some anti-spam filter to work effectively, continually having to manually deal with false positives and false negatives. I use no anti-spam filtering, at all, and only get about three spams a day to another of my email addresses that some ass harvested from a PGP key server. I don't get any of those automatic vacation alert posts that some cretinous list subscribers continually inflict on everyone on a list. Nor those X wants to be your friend, nor those X has rejected your post until you confirm your identity with them, posts. Over a decade of using mailing lists, and usenet, on the internet has taught me that if I publicly post using a "from" address that can receive spam, it will get spam (and other annoying things), and possibly lots of it (particularly if you're on a dozen or more lists). There isn't any need for anybody on this list to contact me privately, I don't particularly want it, so I don't see why I should expose an address to abuse. Although some people may *want* to contact me, but they don't actually *need* to. Old usenet posters do something similar. When they post to a usenet, they use a bogus, disposable, or auto-deleting, "from" address. And for the same reasons (you get masses of spam, hateful messages from trolls, there's no need for people to contact you privately, and it's a pain to deal with informing people if you change an address). -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines