Re: New Update has no kmod for new kernel and new nvidia driver

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On 07/14/2010 04:14 AM, Steven P. Ulrick wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:42 AM, Michael Miles<mmamiga6@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>>      
>>> On 07/13/2010 06:06 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>>>        
>>>> --- On Tue, 7/13/10, Michael Miles<mmamiga6@xxxxxxxxx>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>> Fedora 12 x86_64
>>>>>
>>>>> I did look this time and it seems the gods that have
>>>>> control did not
>>>>> give a kmod for the new Nvidia driver 195.36.31 for the new
>>>>> kernel
>>>>> 2.6.32.16-141.
>>>>> It has a kmod there for the old kernel 2.6.32.14-127
>>>>>
>>>>> The metapackage is there to track in new kmod but if there
>>>>> is no kmod
>>>>> there how can it track in?
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway I hope nobody just pressed "update" without
>>>>> checking
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>> That's why I update manually.  No auto-update for me.  I don't even use the
>>>>          
> -y switch with yum, so I can still opt out of the update after I see the
> download list.
>    
>>>> As far as the new kmod, wait a few days, then check again.  The longest I
>>>>          
> had to wait one time (with F9) was a week, but most times it was a day or two.
>   However, I don't have to wait anymore:  F12's nouveau works just fine with my
> old GeForce 6600 card.
>    
>>>> B
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> It just seems odd that this would be overlooked as to someone who is
>>> newer to Linux than myself could find themselves in trouble if they just
>>> updated because the system says there are updates.
>>>        
>> It is not "overlooked" by the Fedora package builders - remember that
>> the Nvidia drivers are built by rpmfusion and not in the Fedora update
>> system. So they are on a "third party" repo and the guys at rpmfusion
>> will take some time to build the nvidia stuff for a new kernel once it
>> is released. As a previous poster mentioned - just wait a few days and
>> try again. In the meantime it is quite easy to boot back to the
>> previous kernel where you had the nvidia stuff in place - then when
>> the new kmod is available and installed then boot into the new kernel
>> with the new kmod......
>>      
> On my system I use "akmods"&  "akmods-nvidia"  The way it works for me is that
> if necessary "akmods" rebuilds the nVidia kernel module when I reboot into a new
> kernel.  Some people have no luck with the "akmods" method.  For me, it has
> always worked perfectly.
>
> This is on Fedora 13.
>
> Steven P. Ulrick
>    
I fully understand the obligations of Fedora and RPMFusion and I do 
understand that it is easy to fall back if thing don't work like they 
are supposed to but to a person who just loaded Fedora for the first 
time might be really baffled when they do an update and find the system 
will not boot up.

I just think the updates should be held back until all the required 
software is present.


Michael
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