On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Tom H <tomh0665@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Felipe Contreras > <felipe.contreras@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> The problem is not in the system. > > The sender has to realise that he/she has sent a private email! LOL Yeah, so? It's a user mistake, it's up to the user how to deal with it. > It is much less problematic for "reply" to reply to the list, > especially if changing that behavior is solely meant to help those who > don't want to subscribe to it... No, as I said before, the Reply-To problem is *orthogonal*. See, I'm _subscribed_, right? When I search for 'list:users.lists.fedoraproject.org to:felipe.contreras' I don't find anything (well, I actually I see one mail because Alan Cox ignored the Reply-To header). OTOH 'list:linux-kernel.vger.kernel.org to:felipe.contreras' works fine. Also, what happens if I choose to stay subscribed, but decide to turn mail delivery off? Well, I can send mails, but I will not get the replies. So no, the drawbacks of Reply-To munging are not limited to non-subscribers. >>> 2. Many people hit "reply all" and the person they are replying to >>> complains that he/she has received two emails. >> >> That's because either they are stupid or their system is stupid, and >> their MUA is not right. >> >> In Feodra's case mailman is used, which has the option: >> "Avoid duplicate copies of messages?" > > When someone sends an email to a person and to debian-user and that > person is subscribed to debian-user, two emails are received, one of > which does not go through the list server so its settings don't come > into play. And that's the only mail the person will receive. The list server will see, oh, that mail was sent directly, so I'm not going to do it again. Did you even read the description? --- Avoid duplicate copies of messages? When you are listed explicitly in the To: or Cc: headers of a list message, you can opt to not receive another copy from the mailing list. Select Yes to avoid receiving copies from the mailing list; select No to receive copies. If the list has member personalized messages enabled, and you elect to receive copies, every copy will have a X-Mailman-Copy: yes header added to it. --- >> You seem to have it on by default. Problem solved. > > I think that you mean "the people who complain have it on by default" > because I have never received duplicate emails, nor complained about > them. No, the people who complain (if the ml uses mailman (not everyone does)) have it *off*. Fedora mailing lists (or at lest this one) has it on by default; that's why you would not see this problem (in case somebody overrides the Reply-To header). -- Felipe Contreras -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
