On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 00:02 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: > > > Is this done on purpose in order to chase new users away? Is > somebody > > working for Ubuntu here? > > > This sort of rhetoric is unnecessary if you are looking for > help. > > This rhetoric makes sense only if you think that going the Sun way is > not the way to go for Red Hat. And if you want newbies to join the Red > Hat's ecosystem, telling them to RTFM just won't work. Things are > going to have to work without RTFM. > > But does Red Hat want to build an ecosystem to sustain newbies' > support? Where is it headed? Soon Google will have its tablet out. > applications will work in the browser. You tap this, you tap that and > it works. Hardware and software are going to be devised as one. A chip > with its own ID will make security stronger. (Of course, we all know > what this means confidentiality-wise, but will the newbie care? I > doubt it. ) Without security, the cloud would be just that, a cloud. > > They're going to sell music, movies, whatever. Ubuntu plays the same > game: they're going to have their tablet too: > http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2010/06/13/ubuntu_for_tablets/ > > So, you might think that Fedora/Red Hat will survive staying on idle > simple-user-wise, asking its users to RTFM like ArchLinux does and > caring about Sun's former customers? > > I doubt it and I certainly believe that having the kernels and the > kmods appearing in sync would be the lesser step in the good > direction. > > Excuse me for being a non-programmer and stating the obvious like I've > done so many times, Try to understand it can get frustrating and that, > short of rewriting the whole diatribe, sometimes a knee jerk comes > handy. ---- feel free to use Ubuntu if it better suits your needs. Fedora remains committed to only free / non-patent encumbered, non-license encumbered packages and your complaint is about software (nVidia proprietary video drivers) that Fedora makes no effort to embrace. This is a conscious and deliberate decision. Whatever Google, Ubuntu, Sun, Arch or anyone else does is not material to the discussion - Fedora does not concern themselves with the 3rd party software that is clearly not compatible with the GPL license. You should be able to understand this. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines