network returns exactly that when its not running mike ... that's what mine says too ... network has no daemons. The network 'status' option just uses ifconfig to find and list interfaces and then runs ip -o link show up ... So it really isnt a problem when NM is on ... so now lets make sure than network is off .. . So next question is chkconfig --list network chkconfig --list NetworkManager gene/ -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines