On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 13:42 -0700, Alan Evans wrote: > You seem to think that the only alternative to completely excluding > the more technical options is to scatter incomprehensible jargon all > over the page. I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion. I came to this conclusion after going through some 40-odd mockups of the current page trying ot prevent it from looking like either a grid of links (which is what the get-fedora-all page is, BTW) or a page full of incomprehensible jargon, yes. You are most certainly more than welcome to try your hand at mixing up the design if you feel you can do better! All the source files to the mockups are available and they were made with Inkscape which is included in Fedora. The devil is certainly in the details though. There's a lot of problems to be solved in the pages, the least of which is slapping on a torrent link. Adding one link causes reverberating effects on the entirety of the page, and most certainly does not scale. If I added 'just one more link' to that page, for every 'just one more link' page the websites team has gotten, we would be back to a page that is a confusing grid of links. Seriously. You've gotta trust me on this, if you don't want to spend the time it takes to read through all of the design documents and mailing list threads and history of the design. > How about something like this at the bottom of the page?: > > "Users looking for the Torrent downloads should go [link]here[/link]. > If you don't know what a Torrent is then it's not what you want." Where would someone get to the mirrors then? Oh just add one more link right? Okay. How about boot.fedoraproject.org or downloading a boot iso? Oh, just one or two more links. Okay. How about adding a link to KDE on the front page? Ooh, that's one more link. Okay. Oh, and someone else was complaining on a forum that I was reading yesterday that we don't have a link to download the LiveUSB creator. So we'll have to add a link for that, and a link for the instructions on how to use LiveUSB creator. Oh, but there's two versions of liveusb creator, one for Windows, one for *nix, okay then, I guess two links for that.... [ I could do this all day. ] > > That would have at least kept me (and probably many others) from > scanning the page over and over again for ten minutes looking for what > I just knew must be there. No, it wouldn't. Do you know why? Because there are tens if not hundreds of thousands of people who go to that page, and they aren't all looking for the same thing. Maybe you and 300 other people were looking for a torrent link. But maybe 10,000 people were just looking to simply download the default live image. Not to mention the other thousands of people who were probably looking for other specific things [ x86 | x86_64 | ppc | sparc | arm | gnome | kde | lxde | xfce | $NAME spin | $LOCATION mirror | torrent | cds | dvd | live | boot img | ... ... ... ~m -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
