On Tuesday 18 May 2010, Tom H wrote: >On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Monday 17 May 2010, Rick Stevens wrote: >>>On 05/17/2010 02:12 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>>> Clarify here: I can do all that as the user. What I can't do, until >>>> somebody decides to fix mkinitrd, is to run it as the user. That is my >>>> specific bitch. And I think its perfectly valid. mkinitrd simply will >>>> not run for anybody but root. >>> >>>And this is a bad thing? I, for one, don't want some low-level user >>>installing a kernel on my machines. I don't want them installing >>>ANYTHING that's global. >> >> Repeat after me Rick: "I am the only user of this machine". And that >> will likely continue until such time as I fall over for the last time. > >Even if your use-case encompassed 100% of fedora users, there wouldn't >be any reason for violating the principle of least/minimal privilege >and giving a non-root user unnecessary rights. It is up to you to >modify your settings to allow one or more users to perform a command >without being root. > >>>When you get to the point where you're installing something that will >>>affect all the users on the machine or the operation of the machine >>>itself, only an administrator (e.g. "root") should be permitted to do >>>so. This is the whole point of system security and tools such as "su" >>>and "sudo". >> >> I am moderately aware that rpms _should_ be installed as root, however >> this machine has mdv-2010-x64 on it at the moment, and its software >> updater has, in the last 6 weeks, probably updated 2Gb of software on >> this machine without even asking me for my user passwd. OTOH, I have had >> to use root to install another 2 or 3G of stuff. > >"Mandriva does it" isn't a good enough reason to allow a non-root user >to install software. Mandriva has probably adopted a model similar to >the one that was adopted and quickly dumped by F12, IIRC. > Entirely possible. It has not, that I am aware of, caused a problem, yet... -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Content: 80% POLYESTER, 20% DACRONi ... The waitress's UNIFORM sheds TARTAR SAUCE like an 8" by 10" GLOSSY ... -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
