Rick Stevens: >> And this is a bad thing? I, for one, don't want some low-level user >> installing a kernel on my machines. I don't want them installing >> ANYTHING that's global. Gene Heskett: > Repeat after me Rick: "I am the only user of this machine". And that > will likely continue until such time as I fall over for the last time. And you are allowed to become root to do such things... You are still thinking in the run as root mentality. Whether you directly run as root, or make it so that an ordinary user can do root-like things, you're still trying to do the same thing. You're butting your head against the same brick wall. The precautions are there for the right reasons, ordinary users shouldn't be able to do root things. If the model is broken to suit users trying to do things in a cockeyed manner, it causes no end of problems for everyone else. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines