I was disappointed when I read through the Go / No Go meeting log tonight when I read that we would have to slip. Then I remembered the evidence of hard work I observed over the last couple of weeks and thought, that people are going to notice the slip and grumble about that and forget about the hard work a number of people put in trying to get a release we could be proud of out on the 18th. So I acknowledged some of that on the devel list. Then I thought about it some more and contrasted it to some of the mailing list issues with people making mostly negative comments when something goes wrong or when people had disagreements. And what I thought is that we don't do enough calling each other out for going above and beyond (either as a volunteer or a even a Redhat employee). I think partly is that we expect people to do a good job on Fedora and even most of the people who participate are self motiviated or they wouldn't be here. Still, I think being publically acknowledged by your peers for doing something good is something that almost everyone appreciates. I wasn't sure where to post this, as a lot of the people who should see this probably don't read the users list. But I didn't want to put this on just the devel list or the test lists, because I really think it is something that should be done more by all teams. So I went with users and hope that things will perculate back to various teams. I think Paul is pretty good about doing this, but I think relying on the FPL to do it all requires that he know about it and puts an extra burden on him. I think this is something we all should be doing. So when you see someone put in extra effort that affects you positively, please consider thanking the person publically. Some recent examples I have noticed: Mike McGrath promptly dealt with an outage on a weekend a week or so ago. I assume that Mike has a life and had to stop something he was doing that was either fun or needed to be done in order to deal with getting koji/bodhi working again. Jesse Keating worked hard building RC images and spins this last week in the run up to today's go / no go meeting. He ended up dealing with at least a few things he really shouldn't have had to, but took care of them. The testing / QA teams. It looked to me like the testing and QA folks were working hard to figure out the causes of blocker bugs, get them fixed and then tested. I don't know their names, but maybe Adam would like to single some of them out for recognition? -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines