a bit of a mystery here ... after wireless has worked just fine on this laptop for months on end, i show up at a friend's place after work, fire up the laptop, expect to connect to his wireless same as usual and ... nothing. check the network settings thru network manager and not only is wireless not active, the setting is greyed out so i can't even select it to activate it. how odd. "ifconfig -a" shows a wlan0 interface, but it's not up. then there's iwconfig: wlan0 IEEE 802.11bg Mode:Managed Access Point: Not-Associated Tx-Power=off Retry long limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:off Power Management:off if i try to scan with that interface: # iwlist wlan0 scan wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down # and # ifconfig wlan0 up SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 132 # time to start googling, of course, but all of this came on suddenly and for no apparent reason. thoughts? rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday ======================================================================== -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines