Re: Clamav

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> >> So the myth is just that, a myth
> >>      
> > IOW, when you run Windows apps, you get infected.
> Where's the myth? Did
> > your Linux system crash? Were any of your system files
> corrupted? Was
> > any of your non-Wine data leaked? Was your root
> password compromised?
> > Did anything happen that would still have happened if
> you weren't
> > running a Windows API?
> >
> > poc
> >
> >    
> No, non of  linux was actually infected and not harmed
> in any way that I 
> can see.
> 
> My point is if wine is part of a Fedora install because it
> installs with 
> Fedora automatically it is part of the system in general.

Nope, Wine is not part of Fedora default install, it is packaged for Fedora and available through yum
# yum install wine

> 
> Considering the way it works I really dont know why it is
> there is there 
> if it can be infected as easily as this.

Malware exists, it is frequent and if one is not careful, it could come in to any system.  But one has to be asking for it with Linux based and other Unix based operating systems.  Through wine, it can come in, but no harm was done right?

> 
> I have removed wine altogether.
> 
> Also I did have Clamav running with this machine and even
> after finding 
> the viruses with Avira, Clamav would not see them at all.

Maybe the ClamAV is looking for other types of virii not specific to windows.  

> 
> That to me does spell trouble if
> 1. A person is relying on linux reputation for not getting
> a virus then 
> does something dumb like using wine and getting infected.

This is like a user shooting (him/her)self on the foot.  

> 
> 2. Thinks that protection is needed and uses Clamav for
> that protection 
> and the software fails them by not finding the culprit
> 
> 
> I know one thing Avira free is staying on this machine for
> a while
> 
> 
> Better to be safe than sorry!!!!
> -- 


running wine on fedora or other linux based systems is something most people do and do not get infections.  What Patrick wrote is right on the money.  

> > IOW, when you run Windows apps, you get infected.
> Where's the myth? Did
> > your Linux system crash? Were any of your system files
> corrupted? Was
> > any of your non-Wine data leaked? Was your root
> password compromised?
> > Did anything happen that would still have happened if
> you weren't
> > running a Windows API?

It was not and you have stated that.  So all in all, it is not Fedora's fault it is between the user and wine;

Also as Bruno and others have pointed out, Selinux is there to protect us.  It can also let you know that somethings are going on and that somewhere a file was mislabeled and ...., the setroubleshoot star appears and guides you to find solutions and where the solution offered does not work, you may report the issue on selinux list, bugzilla, etc.  You may also disable it like some other users have because it gets in the way too much!  But it is there to protect you, not to make your life miserable.  I have encountered difficulties with it too, and Mr. Dan Walsh, Tom London, and others have been very helpful and thus I can't complain about selinux.  

Regards,

Antonio 


      
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