Re: Clamav

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Michael Miles wrote:
On 04/16/2010 01:39 PM, jdow wrote:
From: "Patrick O'Callaghan"<pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, 2010/April/15 12:50


On Thu, 2010-04-15 at 12:22 -0700, Michael Miles wrote:
I have removed all and I will wait for proper instruction as I really
do not know enough about this OS
Given that you say so yourself, the logical question is "why do you need
Clamav"? Clamav is usually installed by people running mail servers for
users who access them from Windows. If all you're doing is reading mail
in Linux, it's extremely unlikely that you even need it. In 35 years of
using first Unix and then Linux, I have yet to see a single virus that
wasn't a proof-of-concept demo.
1) I have seen at least one active exploit, I fortunately recognized
myself, for Linux in my<mumble>  years with computers. (longer than
yours, sonny, although I took a 6 year hiatus in there. {^_-}) (Even
my beloved Amiga (made some money off that system) had online exploits.)

2) Some of us live on mixed networks. Open Sores does NOT pay for my
bread, water, and roof, let alone any recreation. So I have Windows
machines around. ClamAV is handy to have in the Linux machine, which
is the master server for the system.

3) If you read the kernel list a little more you'd discover enough chatter
about obvious items of vulnerability you'd want to put a condom on your
computer.

4) I will agree with you as far as to say Linux is not as vulnerable as
Windows. That is mostly because it is still perceived as being a boutique
OS with savvy users. When that changes I expect to see numbers of active
exploits out on the Internet to increase sharply. I would prefer a casual
date put on his condom BEFORE rather than AFTER he makes mostions to
impregnate me, which at my age is hopeless.

{^_^}   Fortunately Joanne has not had to reinstall YET.
I started with the Vic 20 then went to the 64

I had a Amiga 3000 up to a 68060 and of course lightwave and the video toaster by newtek.

Now that Amiga was a system which I adored

I find Linux similar but I love the drag and drop of the amiga especially for devices.


I run an Amd Phenom 2 945 now initialy with Win 7 x64 ultimate.

Am totally fed up with Windows

I like Fedora very much and am extremely impressed with security.

I freaked out when Clamav found a trojan in my mozilla directory only to see it was the test virus that comes with clamav.

I have a home network here with 2 other computers on it. Both Win 7 machines


We do not share mail service and only share music and videos from this machine
(fat 4 tera byte hd)


Anyway I think I will let it run for a bit but I'm still not sure I want it on.
Still have really no need unless viruses start to take hold with linux.

At the very same time once the damage is done by a nasty virus it is too late.

Some protection is needed, I would think


I put in a backup Win 7 dvd and scanned it

Clam av found 4 on the dvd. Bitdefender  for unices found 15






Michael
It is mostly a personal choice, but if you want to protect the two doze computers from infecting each other with shared files that are controlled on the Fedora box, you can run clam on that to catch it. I run Symantec Corporate on all my workstations, and on my fileserver (a Fedora box with a large amount of space) to protect my systems from spreading virus'. I am less concerned with the linux box getting infected, though, as was pointed out earlier in the thread, the attackers go for the lowest hanging fruit first. At the very least it can help protect against spreading of known viruses.


As a note, Virus Total is a good proving ground on how most AV programs just plain suck half the time especially with bleeding edge bugs. (Search Sans ISC for articles on that aspect, interesting read if you have time to kill)

~Seann

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