On 04/16/2010 01:44 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 18:51 +0000, BeartoothHOS wrote: >> Is it just me?? >> >> I've noticed, on several machines (PC, laptop, netbook) that if >> the machine has no connection, or thinks it has none, the gpk function >> claims there are no updates; but if I doubt that and run yum update, it >> may immediately get over a hundred -- or at least report a failure to >> connect. >> >> Couldn't gpk do the same?? > > Sounds like the old "interface not managed by NetworkManager" trick. > Some Gnome apps rely on NM to tell them if the machine is connected. If > the interface is not managed by NM, they don't realize the connection > works. This happens to Evolution for example. Luckily yum is not a Gnome > app and therefore is not confused. > > Solution: mark the interface as NM-managed (in system-control-network). Hmmm, I'd call that a work-around, not a solution. The solution is for gpk (in fact, all GUI-based stuff) to query the NICs via something like ip link show up | egrep "(eth.:|wlan.:)" and see if any network link is up. Or scan /proc/net/dev (or one of the /proc/net files). The problem is if you have to authenticate using a network-based mechanism (e.g. NIS/NIS+ or LDAP), then you have to use the classic networking stuff since NM doesn't fire until you're logged in AND are using a GUI. Perhaps it'd be better if classic networking and NM would write a temp file somewhere indicating that SOME network device is alive and all tools could look at it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, C2 Hosting ricks@xxxxxxxx - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - "Doctor! My brain hurts!" "It will have to come out!" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
