On 04/02/2010 02:18 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 23:56 -0600, charles zeitler wrote: >> Do what thou wilt >> shall be the whole of the Law. >> >> >> On 4/1/10, Rahul Sundaram <metherid@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> On 04/02/2010 05:27 AM, charles zeitler wrote: >>>> >>>> 1) "free and open source software" is redundant ( if it's free software ) >>>> >>> >>> Not quite. FOSS is a umbrella term and using it is one way of avoiding >>> the free beer vs freedom confusion >>> >> yes, i can see that.... ( although i have seen some potentially >> misleading references to just "open source software" ) > > Also, GPL partisans insist that there is a difference between "truly > free" (i.e., GPL) software and "merely open-source" (i.e., non-GPL) > software. No. The FSF (who are, presumably, GPL partisans) make it perfectly clear that there are many non-GPL free software licences. http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html Any software that allows its users all of the freedoms of the Free Software Definition is free software, by definition. Andrew. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines