bluetooth and dbus

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Hello,
  I am trying to start the bluetooth manager (pref
I ran "service bluetooth start". then system->preferences->bluetooth
manager , and I got "connection to bluez failed", "bluez daemon is not
running, blueman manager cannot continue"

I tried:

bluetoothd -dn

and I get:
bluetoothd[3268]: Bluetooth daemon 4.58
bluetoothd[3268]: Enabling debug information
bluetoothd[3268]: parsing main.conf
bluetoothd[3268]: discovto=0
bluetoothd[3268]: pairto=0
bluetoothd[3268]: pageto=8192
bluetoothd[3268]: name=%h-%d
bluetoothd[3268]: class=0x000100
bluetoothd[3268]: discov_interval=0
bluetoothd[3268]: Key file does not have key 'DeviceID'
bluetoothd[3268]: Unable to get on D-Bus

I have fedora 12 with bluez-4.58-1.fc12 rpm
what can be the reason ?

rgs,
Mark
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