On 03/22/2010 10:06 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote: > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Sam Sharpe <lists.redhat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > <mailto:lists.redhat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > > On 22 March 2010 22:36, Marcel Rieux <m.z.rieux@xxxxxxxxx > <mailto:m.z.rieux@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > > Suse uses AppArmor without kernel integration and I'm not sure > what support > > they offer for the project. They bought AppArmor and later licensed > > everybody except maybe 2 developers (not sure). > > > > Anyways, Novell is pretty much a living dead. Its Novell business > is, of > > course, dead and Suse still lives because it's on a live support > line from > > Microsoft. > > Do yourself a favour. Don't try to pass your opinions off as fact. > Novell is very much alive. > > > I must confess that I'm not very strong on opinions; I'm better on facts. Then you should probably try finding some. The drivel below is complete fantasy. > 2006. Microsoft sends a letter to Red Hat pretending that the Linux > kernel infringes 235 of their patents and that they'll have to pay > royalties. Wrong. > Red Hat answers: "Yeah, no problem! Send the patent list." > Somehow, it seems that Microsoft lost the list. Red Hat, who was eager > to pay, never received it. So wrong as to be laughable. Red Hat has maintained all along that there is nothing to pay, that Microsoft has never actually provided evidence of any infringement. Red Hat made crystal clear that it did not enter into any patent agreement with Microsoft when it did the cross-certification work last year around running Windows as a guest on on RHEL and running RHEL as a guest on Windows. See Q5 at http://www.redhat.com/promo/svvp/ > Novell, on the other side, didn't ask for the list. They crawled to > Microsoft asking no question and signed. Of course, the deal wasn't that > bad. > > "The deal involves upfront payment of $348 million from Microsoft to > Novell for patent cooperation and SLES subscription. Novell will pay > around $40 million to Microsoft over 5 years." > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novell#Agreement_with_Microsoft > > http://www.google.ca/search?q=novell+2006+%24348+million > > In other words, Microsoft paid ~$148 million to drive a wedge into the > Linux community and Novell was glad to comply. > > Here's the result: > > http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=NOVL&annual > <http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=NOVL&annual> > > Now, the shares are gaining on an "offer" of a $2B buyout... which the > Novell board of course refused as way too low. > > People usually have opinions to make up for their ignorance of facts. Seriously - next time you pump this crap onto the list, please check your facts. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
