On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 17:08 -0500, Mikkel wrote: > One thing that can help in the fight to educate users is to start > charging to fix their system. Yes, it is hard to charge your friends > and family for fixing things, But for some reason, they listen to > your advice better if they are paying for it. Yes. It starts with the simple, I get a good meal for fixing your computer. And you can probably end it by asking them to unblock your toilet while you fix their computer. ;-) Whenever someone asks you to fix their computer, ask them to help you do something to help you, in return. You can use that to actually get things done that you need help with, or dissuade them from asking you again. Simply by careful selection of your payment. ;-) Be sure to pick something equally time-consuming and aggravating. Plumbing, painting, gardening... I view having to fix someone else's computer with the same relish as if they'd asked me to unblock their toilet, with my bare hands. And I tell people that all the time. It gets the message through. These days I tell people I don't use Windows any more, and haven't for years. I can't even recommend a good anti-virus program to them, or anti-malware, etc., because I don't use them, and don't need to. So I've no idea which are good. And, no, I don't want someone to tell me about which are the current good ones (I think they all suck, anyway). That line has saved me from many wasted hours. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines