It seems impossible to upgrade FC5 without a clean install -- is that essentially correct? If I did decide to stick with FC5, how, generally, would I go about installing java or other rpm's? Manually downloading? Can I connect up FC5 with: http://livna-dl.reloumirrors.net/fedora/5/i386/ thanks, Thufir -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines