On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Russell Miller <duskglow@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Saturday 13 March 2010 02:58:48 pm Craig White wrote: > What about selinux? At the SCALE conference, Karsten Wade gave the keynote > and acknowledged that selinux was handled badly, and also acknowledged that it > was a huge PR problem - people are still reflexively turning it off because of > the damage the Fedora project did to its reputation. I can't even turn it on > at my workplace because no one trusts it - and FEDORA did that! Fedora, and > Red Hat. > > And it's not getting any better, at least from my experience. I don't believe that I have problems with SELinux on my desktop computer or, at least, I do not receive messages telling me so. OTOH, I know that Klipper worked perfectly in KDE3 when I was using it in Knoppix, for instance. Then, I thought it was because KDE was at version 4.0. But now? Now I wonder if it doesn't have something to do with address space layout randomization. Why does a clipboard utllity suddenly stops functioning and nobody raises the matter? When I do, I get no answer, when I repeat my question, some people say I always come back to the same topics. But nobody dares say they have found out a clipboard utility that works perfectly, even decently. Brawlers will throw at you the first thing that comes to their mind. They'll say "KDE is not Fedora's default desktop environment. Why don't you use Glipper instead?" Of course, they know that the problem with Glipper is that, if you have more than one screenful of entries and you want to select the second one, the entries will slowly unfold from the last one to the first ones. The silly thingy has been no use for years. Developers never noticed? Developers never noticed that ALL file mangers, all the graphics ones, at least, have bugs? We're talking about very basic stuff, here. > We are *not* irrelevant. I'm not, and neither is the OP, and the attitude > that says we are is the *problem*. Yep, this is a good summary. Attitude is the problem. Linux development is like a hord of Gauls facing the structured army of the Romans. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
