Kevin Kofler wrote: > Kevin J. Cummings wrote: >> And what you are saying is that someone can't get support for the video >> card in his/her brand spanking new computer that they just bought at the >> computer store....assuming it has the latest and greatest video card >> from whatever manufacturer. Weird. > > "whatever manufacturer except Intel" whose desktop/laptop class GMA chips > (i.e. all except the GMA 500 / Poulsbo) all just work, even the current > latest one. > > But other than that, yes, we're saying that and it's not weird at all, it's > just how things are. Drivers don't magically appear instantly. > >> When I bought my laptop, I didn't worry about video. > > And that was your mistake. > >> It was all supposed to "just work". > > If you expect that, you need to check what hardware you're buying. > >> The good news is that now GoogleEarth runs with the stock radeon driver, >> but I can't tell you exactly when that happened because there was no big >> fanfare about it when it happened. > > Assuming it's an r5xx series card (it can't be r6xx or higher because you > said the Catalyst driver doesn't support it anymore), Fedora 9 updates / > Fedora 10. It was added in this update: > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/package-announce/2008-July/011954.html > which says "adds r500 support" spelled out black on white in the update > notes. > > If it's an r3xx or r4xx, even earlier. Please tell us the exact model ID. > I give you a free suggestion, which developers will promptly shout down as "admitting our video support sucks," and that is to put a 2nd entry in grub.conf, label it stable graphics mode, and do whatever is needed to get the kernel to leave the video the hell alone and use vesa. I don't want to run 3D, or fancy graphics, or play games, I want to have working X, and not have it crash all the time, get kernel panics, or have to do boot time editing by hand to get X or run in runlevel 3. Current Linux video works better and better on fewer and fewer cards, and it's not just Fedora. Time to give the user an out. -- Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines