Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

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Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
>> And what you are saying is that someone can't get support for the video
>> card in his/her brand spanking new computer that they just bought at the
>> computer store....assuming it has the latest and greatest video card
>> from whatever manufacturer.  Weird.
> 
> "whatever manufacturer except Intel" whose desktop/laptop class GMA chips
> (i.e. all except the GMA 500 / Poulsbo) all just work, even the current
> latest one.
> 
> But other than that, yes, we're saying that and it's not weird at all, it's
> just how things are. Drivers don't magically appear instantly.
> 
>> When I bought my laptop, I didn't worry about video.
> 
> And that was your mistake.
> 
>> It was all supposed to "just work".
> 
> If you expect that, you need to check what hardware you're buying.
> 
>> The good news is that now GoogleEarth runs with the stock radeon driver,
>> but I can't tell you exactly when that happened because there was no big
>> fanfare about it when it happened.
> 
> Assuming it's an r5xx series card (it can't be r6xx or higher because you
> said the Catalyst driver doesn't support it anymore), Fedora 9 updates /
> Fedora 10. It was added in this update:
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/package-announce/2008-July/011954.html
> which says "adds r500 support" spelled out black on white in the update
> notes.
> 
> If it's an r3xx or r4xx, even earlier. Please tell us the exact model ID.
> 
I give you a free suggestion, which developers will promptly shout down as 
"admitting our video support sucks," and that is to put a 2nd entry in 
grub.conf, label it stable graphics mode, and do whatever is needed to get the 
kernel to leave the video the hell alone and use vesa.

I don't want to run 3D, or fancy graphics, or play games, I want to have working 
X, and not have it crash all the time, get kernel panics, or have to do boot 
time editing by hand to get X or run in runlevel 3. Current Linux video works 
better and better on fewer and fewer cards, and it's not just Fedora. Time to 
give the user an out.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <[email protected]>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot
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