On Monday 01 February 2010 23:53:32 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > And who supports their own hardware at all? Opensource-ness is immaterial > > here, ATI doesn't have *any* drivers which would work in F12, for their > > own latest&greatest graphics card. > > Who cares? That card is too expensive anyway! At an Austrian price > comparison site (but I doubt it's very different elsewhere), the cheapest > card with that Radeon HD 5970 costs EUR 529.20!!! The cheapest supported > model is an X1550 at EUR 20.40, the next cheapest an HD 3450 (should work > with mesa-dri-drivers-experimental) at EUR 22.10. Even an HD 4350 (should > also work with mesa-dri-drivers-experimental) can be had at only EUR 24.48. > (Note: Those are all PCI-Express cards.) Those cards are over 20 times > cheaper! And they're also passively cooled, so you also save power (and > thus even more money) and noise. And the chip itself probably also draws > less power. Why throw out EUR 500 + energy costs + your freedom just to > have the latest? Ok, when it comes to money, and "who cares?" type of argument, I stop arguing. :-) However... While I would never ever spend 500 EUR for a graphics card that doesn't have a usable driver, I would just like to make a small non-serious comment --- your argument above can be naturally extended as follows: <bold> if you don't buy a computer at all, you save the ultimate amount of your money, energy and freedom! </bold> I'm going to meditate on this.. ;-) Anyway, I did enter this debate knowing in advance that I am to lose eventually. And so I admit the debate is lost, but nevertheless I believe I've made my point about this whole topic. Kevin, I invite you to provide a closing statement for the thread. I withdraw, and believe we've beaten this topic to death. :-) Best, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines