On Monday 01 February 2010, Tom Horsley wrote: >On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 14:23:57 +0000 > >Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> Given the alleged >> availability of hardware specs, I'd expect the driver to progress much >> faster than it actually does. > >There is a link on the xorg web site somewhere to a batch of pdf files >provided by amd/ati (I saw it once, but don't remember how to navigate >to it again :-). > >The real problem is likely to be that the developers for ati cards >actually believe the docs - often docs are more of a hindrance than >a help when hardware revs happen several times with no change to the >docs, etc. You write code that does just what the docs say, then >waste vast amounts of time looking for bugs you know can't be in that >code because it precisely follows the docs :-). I think the lack >of docs may be why nouveau seems to be making better progress... > >What we need is to take a year, devise some test programs people >can run to check the actual behavior of video cards against the >individual bits of information described in the docs, then encourage >folks to run the tests and report all the flaws in the docs which >we could then ask ati to explain (but that is unlikely to happen, >it is just a fantasy I have :-). Actually Tom, you have company in that fantasy. A decade ago, I asked on this list what the best card was at the time & several said a certain ati card. So I bought one the very next day. No workee. Seems ati had changed the chipset out for a brand new one, and had done it without changing the size of a single dot above an i anyplace on the box. I took it back saying that the card in the box wasn't the card I thought I bought, and wasn't compatible, got an nvidia which mostly worked with the then current nv driver, but it failed post less than a year later. So the test suite fantasy really does sound like a great idea. Thanks for reading. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Q: Why did the lone ranger kill Tonto? A: He found out what "kimosabe" really means. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines