On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 16:35 +0000, Marko Vojinovic wrote: =================================================== > > I'm using the same binary driver as you are. =================================================== Do take notice that I -am- using the nVidia binary drivers. > > - Legacy driver releases tend to lag the "current" driver badly. In a > > desktop, you could always switch to the latest version, but you laptop > > still carries a GF5600M, you're more or less screwed. > > Umm, my initial comment that spawned this part of the thread was about advice > on buying *new* cards, not buying *old* cards. If you want to buy an old card, > feel free to buy a new Intel card instead, you'll get the same level of > performance. ... I was commenting on Ed's "nVidia is problem free" comment. (Even though I really admire their efforts to keep their drivers working and current - and I'm not being cynical) > > > - Xen kernel were never supported by nVidia. > > You want 3D graphics in a virtual environment? To what purpose? Playing quake3 > on a mail/web/file-server under a virtual machine? *Cough Desktop virtualization without VT/SVN *Cough > > > - Having to compile a kernel without 4K stacks for months, until nVidia > > added support for it. > > As compared to ATI not providing support for current version of X for the same > number of months and still counting? Tricky question: what is easier --- > recompiling a kernel, or downgrading X? :-) See below... > > > .... Again, nVidia is doing an admirable job at keeping their drivers > > stable and current (compared to say, ATI or Intel Poulsbo), but claiming > > the using them do not come at a price, is ridicules, at best. > > Fair enough. But this price is lower then in ATI and Intel case, at any rate. > It's not perfect, but is just the best offer available. I do not disagree (hence, I'm using it to power my 7300, 8600 and 9800GTX+ cards...) I am saying that Kevin is right, in the long run it -will- bite us in the back-side. It doesn't really matter if it'll happen when Xen gets integrated into Fedora's -stock- kernel or the next time Xorg/kernel/glibc completely breaks the API forcing nVidia to rewrite their driver. Either way, it's just a matter of time. Far worse, as we are all using the nVidia driver instead of helping the Nouveau debug their driver, if/when thing go horribly wrong, switching to Nouveau driver will be extremely painful to say the least. As I said before, like me, you can choose to use binary drivers, but keep in mind that by doing it, were all slowly cutting the branch from under our collective feet. - Gilboa -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines