On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 16:51 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > > reg@xxxxxxx wrote: > >> What has happened to the concept of release notes that a person could > >> actually print down and read? > >> > >> Previous releases have had Release Notes that were mabe 20 pages long, with a > >> sentence or two about each change. > >> > >> I looked at the Release Notes for Fedora12, and its a 500page PDF document. > >> Now thats way longer than I want to print, since I would never read it all, and > >> there is no way Im going to read more than a page or two of it online. > >> The part that does not list the individual program changes is only about 20 pages long, > >> So basically, someone has spent a lot of time, generating a very nice looking > >> document, which I am sure has a lot of good information in it, but we need > >> something more compact. Something I can read in 10minutes. > >> > >> As it stands, I have to assume that I, and everyone else just ignores these > >> Release Notes. Too bad. > >> > > Well, you can count me out in your assumption. > > > > I enjoy the entire 496 page document that has a comprehensive index > > which makes it easy for me to locate change information on the subjects > > most important to me. I entirely appreciate the amount of time and > > effort it took those responsible to create this fine document. > > > > I wouldn't want to see less information in the release notes. I'm > > impressed that someone went to the effort to list all of the upstream > > URLs and have found that to be of great value to me. > > > Obviously you have lots of time to fill. I would be a lot happier with a list of > what changes and a sentence or two describing the new version or pointing to > great detail if I want or need it. If you are looking at "will this change > effect me" you don't want War and Peace you want the Cliff Notes or less. > > > Besides, I don't know how anyone could create a document which would > > contain all the information that conforms to each individual's 10 minute > > attention span. Any document that short would certainly leave out > > information important to someone. > > > In many cases you don't want or need that level of detail. "Updated to vx.y.z" > may be sufficient. A few pages allow reading on the train, in boring meetings if > you sit properly in the back, and in lots of places where a laptop would be out > of place, like a chain restaurant or even in the can. > > > FWIW, I can't remember the last time I printed a even a 10 page document. > > > Old age creeps up on all of us. > > > -- > Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx> > "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from > the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot > -- ======================================================================= Have an adequate day. ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines