Evening All, After many trials & tribulations, I've finally got my laptop running F12 - got caught by the "yumex kernel upgrade" problem - still can't get ark to read consistently from my external disc -even after running cpu test for 2 days & memtest for 80 hours without error & getting a clean bill of health from palimpsest for the HDD, - so tried rsync & ssh & finally followed enough "how to"s to copy my /home from F11 to F12. Thanks to all for the many ideas of how to fix it! Now.... seeing how brilliant rsync is at updating my /home on the 2 machines, I thought it'd be a Good Idea to try and use it to keep a website I look after, up to date. Problem is - how do I specify the "receiver" address, when I only have an ftp access to the distant system (& I guess my chances of installing rsync on a provider's system is about as good as......) All the notes I read on the 'net seem to work with ip addresses, which I don't know how to find for my target... As ever, enormous thanks for any pointers & pushes in a "good" direction! Dave -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines