On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 15:04 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 14 December 2009, Craig White wrote: > >On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 20:26 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > >> > Your treatment of redhat/fedora users with over a decade of use has > >> > >> finally > >> > >> > reached the quitting point. You refuse to fix openssh, hoping that > >> > >> would > >> > >> > force me to install F12, and when I do and have problems, its go > >> > >> pound sand. > >> > >> With all due respect, is that the best you have to offer? To > >> bitch'n'moan > >> and to demonstrate ignorance? > >> > >> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-December/msg01145.html > > > >---- > >You are talking about someone who runs gui as root, > > Yup, its my machine & the constant denials of service as a user are a PIMA. > > >builds tarballs as root, > > That is the only way you can properly install amanda. But in case you > haven't noticed, amanda also will not build as root, only the install > requires it. This is something that an rpm _can't_ do correctly, at least > the last time I checked. > > >builds kernels from kernel.org for no apparent reason, > > Only because it supports _my_ hardware better. You have yet to ship a kernel > that has the asus_atk0110 module in it to support a 3 year old asus > motherboard. > > >uses samba > >for networking Linux systems, > > It works, whats not to like>? I have over the years asked several question > about NFS, which I gather you all prefer, but I have yet to make it work well > enough that the error messages actually make sense & I'd know what to fix > next. For everyone else it apparently Just Works & the errors I have posted > are rare enough no help that actually fixes it has been proffered here. > > >complains that bugzilla is too difficult to bother with > > I have to sign up and get a new passwd every time I visit the place, and it > bitches that I'm already a user, so it won't let me in with the password I > wrote down from the last session months ago, and I'm fresh out of both > patience with the pw expiry and the urge to even waste a quarter to call > somebody. If we have to jump through those hoops to file a bz, then at least > have the common courtesy to expire the user as well as the passwd so that we > can sign up a clean account again when we do try. > > >, cannot figure out how to build an rpm > > How about a rpmchkconfig to test the spec file and suggest changes that will > make it build _on this system_. The current documentation is excessively > verbose without touching half the questions a newbie to it has. > > >and can not deal > >with chainloading w/ grub. > > That I got figured out, what I was trying to chainload was an ext4, and old > grub just throws up its hands. Long since fixed I might add. > > >I believe you have captured his essence. > > And as is often the case Craig, the view down your nose is colored by the out > of focus image in the bottom half of the view. ---- I think you have an excuse for everything you do but let me just say FTR... - amanda packager has no problems building amanda rpm's for Fedora - don't know anything about your specific asus motherboard but my suspicion is that you don't know what you are talking about. - every else deals with bugzilla password rules without bitching and moaning - too much rpm documentation... that's too rich for words This is a participatory system - you have the source code and you can modify grub however you see fit. You can build openssl packages however you see fit. This is all about you. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines