William Case wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 15:46 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>> And to carry this one step farther, you can create aliases or
>> function to do things you require often. For example, you could use
>> something like this:
>>
>> function lsp() { ls $@ && less }
>>
>> so that you could run lsd instead of running "ls | less".
>>
>> Mikkel
>
> Or I could use:
>
> ]$ find . -maxdepth 1 -type f ! -name '.*'
> or,
> ]$ find . -maxdepth 1 -type f ! -regex '^.*/\..*'
> or,
> ]$ ls -hl | grep ^-
>
> And I am sure there are a dozen seperate perl solutions out there!
>
Any of those would make a good function with a name that is easy to
remember so you don't have to remember the complicated command.
> And on and on. Count the learning curves and side issues involved for
> someone who just wants to see some text file that they wrote and saved
> and that has seemed to 'disappear'. That kind of thing happens at the
> start all the time.
>
> Let me tell you about unnecessary learning curves. About 5 years ago,
> when I installed Linux for the first time, I tentatively began to
> explore the Gnome desktop and menu.
God, I have been at this longer then I thought. My use of Linux
predates the Gnome desktop...
> I saw Vi(m) -- a text editor.
> Thinking of M$ NotePad, I opened Vim in order to make my first notes to
> myself about this new operating system. I couldn't write a word (I
> didn't know about insert mode) and, determined not to solve problems by
> just rebooting, it took me 4 -- let me repeat -- four hours to get out
> of Vim. (Who would of thunk of escaping to normal mode and inputing a
> ':' to get to a command line.)
>
Yes, you should never try to use vi for the first time without a
cheat sheet! For that matter, I normally set EDITOR so I get the
editor of my choice by default instead of vi. (Another thing new
users do not know about...)
> Most new users have already spent a considerable amount of time trying
> to do the simplest thing before posting on users help list for the first
> time out of fear of looking really really stupid. Suggesting stuff like
> "]$ find . -maxdepth 1 -type f ! -name '.*'" or "'ls -hl | grep ^-'
> just leaves their brains reeling. Particularly when they are in the
> midst of trying to figure out how 10 to 20 other things work.
>
Yes, it would be better to give an explanation along with the
command. Some people do this better, and more consistently then others.
Mikkel
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Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!
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