---------------------------------------- > From: craigwhite@xxxxxxxxxxx > To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:48:37 -0700 > Subject: Re: From the top... how do I get sound working in F11 ? > > On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 19:34 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> Craig White wrote: >>> On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 19:31 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: >>>> If it doesn't work out of the box there are no tools to ever make it >>>> work, which >>>> is why PA should be in the toybox, not the default. >>> ---- >>> ignoring the reality that PA works for most people out of the box, I >>> would agree with you but I can't ignore the reality. It works for me. It >>> has worked for me on every computer I have installed Fedora on. It works >>> for me on every computer I have installed Ubuntu on. >>> >> So tools to correct the cases which don't work out of the box and can't be made >> to work are not needed because it works most of the time? What do we need this >> Linux for anyway, after all Windows works most of the time... > ---- > you make less sense every time you get deeper into this discussion. > > If you think Windows is less trouble, you should use Windows. I don't > have a problem with that. > > If you think pulse audio is a problem, then don't use it. I have no > problem with that. > > pulse audio is little more than a collection layer for audio from > various sources. I am fairly convinced that most of the griping I see on > this list about pulse audio has less to do with pulse audio than people > having trouble getting their Intel motherboard audio to work properly. > Pulseaudio just seems to be a convenient spot to focus one's blame. Well, not entirely true. I had to stop pulseaudio because it was slowing down my machine quiet a lot. Top showed it was using between 20 and 38% of cpu bandwidth. Believe it or not, even after the audio track stopped playing!! I DO NOT need a CPU killer audio deamon, thank you. > > I recognize that it is frustrating to have problems, even regressions > with new releases of Fedora but you have to keep in mind that the > kernel, the kernel modules and of course the underlying software is > still in a rapid state of change and the way to make it work for > yourself and everyone else behind you is to perform diligent bug > reports. > > If you think that I don't understand these issues, I have had bug > reports about not being able to boot Optiplex 320's via grub since > Fedora 7. > > Griping on this list is for losers. > > Craig > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ SkyDrive™: Store, access, and share your photos. See how. http://windowslive.com/Online/SkyDrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_SD_photos_072009 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines