Re: F10 automatic F10 upgrades to F11?

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Kam Leo wrote:
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Daniel B. Thurman<dant@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 09:17:39AM -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

For the last several weeks, I have been getting "automatic"
F11 upgrade notices on my F10 system.  I do not know if
this is a feature or standard operating procedure for this sort
of thing since I have never initiated such an upgrade request
to begin with.

But then again, I thought to myself... why not?  I was getting
tired of waiting for the missing gnome `sessions save' package
which for the most part may never be released for F10.

So, when I was prompted (automatically from yum?) for F10 to
F11 upgrade, I proceeded to start the update process.  After
entering root permission, the upgrade dialog window pops
and and starting "firing away" with the upgrade process:

   "Upgrade your system"
"Preparing system for upgrade"

+ Download release info
+ Download installer images
+ Determine which packages to install
+ Download packages
+ Prepare and test upgrade
+ Ready to begin upgrade
       [Reboot Now]
+ Pressed the [Reboot Now] button
 On rebooting, it shutdown the services, rebooted,
 and grub starts kernel & runs Anaconda.
+ X11 "Finding storage devices... dialogbox pops up
+ X11 Passphrase dialog pops up.  Entered the encrypted disk
  password & checked the "This is a global passphrase" checkbox
+ X11 "Retrieving installation information for installation repo..."
  dialogbox pops up
+ "Checking dependencies in packages selected for installation..."
  & progressbar shows, takes awhile to complete...

The progressbar got 1/3 of the way, and then suddenly X11 quits
and proceeds into text mode:
=============================
[TIME] Starting graphical installation...
install exited abnormally [1/1]
disabling swap...
[...]
unmounting filesystems...
[...]
you may safely reboot your system
[cursor]
=============================

So, I had to power-cycle the PC to reboot.

Grub shows:
==========================
 Upgrade to Fedora 11 (Leonidas) *
 initng boot  *
 Fedora (2.6.27.25-170.2.72.fc10.i686)
 Windows 2000
==========================
* = new additions due to the upgrade process.

====================================
I have gone through this about 5 times over the
course of several weeks, each time, resulting a
failed upgrade.  I can still boot into my F10 system,
nothing was lost or corrupted (as far as I can tell) and
the Upgrade repos still remain in the yum directories.

Can someone tell me, what is going on, why is it
that Yum repeatedly does this from time to time
due to a normal F10 boot, yum F10 updates, and
occasionally popping up the upgrade process?

Every time I think "it's gonna work this time..",
upgrades (from F10 to F11) *always* fails.

FWIW, the following page (and links) may help
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_use_PreUpgrade

If you can provide a more detailed bug filed against preupgrade, I
know there are some folks who would love to improve the experience of
preupgrade.  I was just talking to them last week, matter of
fact... :-)

I know problems currently exist with exotic configurations like /boot
volume on RAID, and one of the things I've suggested is to look for
these cases and then have preupgrade apologize and bail out before
doing anything else.

I have been at the suggested link before, tried it, and it
does not seem to change anything other than I have
cleaned up a lot of things in the F10 filesystem as
suggested.  It did not seem to change the outcomes
of the failed upgrade process as far as I can tell.

What else can I provide by way of "more details"?
Is there something I have left out?

As for filesystem layout:
=========================================
/dev/sda2: ntfs:            29.31GB            /w2kPro
/dev/sda4: extd:            160.61GB
/dev/sda5: ntfs:            29.29GB            /w-App1
/dev/sda6: ntfs:            29.29GB            /w-App2
/dev/sda7: ext3:            196.08GB         /boot
/dev/sda8: crypt-luks:    101.82GB        /root (lvm)

Keep in mind that the above sdaX is not sequentially
labeled due to the use of gparted and manipulation
of the partitions from a previous configuration prior
to installation for F10 at the time. Dunno if this
is a big deal or not...

As for grub:
=========================================
# cat /boot/grub/grub.conf
# grub.conf generated by anaconda
#
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
# NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means that
#          all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
#          root (hd0,6)
#          kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00
#          initrd /initrd-version.img
#boot=/dev/sda
default=saved
timeout=5
splashimage=(hd0,6)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
#hiddenmenu
title Fedora (2.6.27.25-170.2.72.fc10.i686)
  root (hd0,6)
  kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.27.25-170.2.72.fc10.i686 ro
root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet
  initrd /initrd-2.6.27.25-170.2.72.fc10.i686.img
  savedefault
title Windows 2000
  rootnoverify (hd0,1)
  chainloader +1
  savedefault

Kind regards,
Dan
For some reason the installer is having problems with your graphics
card. At boot prompt type "linux xdriver=vesa". If that fails try
"linux text".
I have tried what you have suggested, i.e. to use the vesa driver.

I notice that in this case, I was able to see "Checking dependencies
in packages selected for installation..." progressbar @100%, and
very hung.  Mouse movement is dead, keyboard, dead, everything
I threw at it except the kitchen sink, dead. :)

Now what do you suggest I do (and buying a new computer is not
an option! ;) )?

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