I've spent the past hour googling, and found several others with the same problem, but no solutions that worked for me. Since upgrading from F10 -> F11 (i686), both thunderbird & firefox spontaneously crash with the error: INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the JVM manager System error?:: No such file or directory I was able to work around the problem on thunderbird by doing what was suggested here: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=50237&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a however, the same workaround doesn't apply to firefox. What I've tried on firefox (without improvement) is: 0) Remove the java plugin from /usr/lib/firefox/plugins (there is none in my $HOME/.mozilla) 1) start up in --safe-mode (it still crashes) 2) delete my ~/.mozilla 3) remove & reinstall the firefox RPM If I download and install the 'official' firefox-3.5 package from the Mozilla website, that one does not crash, an works fine. So this appears to be a bug in the fedora version. Has anyone else run into this? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ L. Friedman netllama@xxxxxxxxx LlamaLand https://netllama.linux-sxs.org -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines