Tim: >> There's no need for there to be abusing individuals as a server for >> all and sundry. And it'd be far better for everyone if ISPs ran a >> few more servers, like VOIP and instant messaging, which weren't >> client dependent. Veli-Pekka Kestilä: > As a partial owner of ISP i can tell you that if somone isn't paying > for that server it's not going to happen. They're called customers... ISPs will buy expensive server software, if they see that it's the easiest solution for them. Or they'll buy cheap, or get free, if they're prepared to do more of the work, themselves. This is no different than running mail, news, and web servers. Customers expect mail and web pages from most ISPs, at the very least. One day VOIP will be one of the attractors to choosing one ISP over another. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.24-78.2.53.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines