On Sun, 2009-06-07 at 18:05 +0300, Veli-Pekka Kestilä wrote: > That feature actually is one which is missing from sip, if someone > would make opensource voip-solution which would be secure and use p2p > as transport we could maybe see real alternative to skype. Truth is > that there is a lot of computers which cannot act as a server and > no-one will want to host voip server for free (in large scale) so that > two of these behind nat computers could talk with eachother. They don't have to do that. The only peer-to-peer thing really necessary is the two sides of the conversation. You don't need to have a mass of peer-to-peer strangers connected together, this isn't file sharing. There could quite easily be a simple server installed on ISPs, like they (nearly) all have mail servers, that simply managed the locating of their users online (status and IP), then the clients direct connect together. i.e. The server has a very small, comparatively speaking, workload. There's no need for there to be abusing individuals as a server for all and sundry. And it'd be far better for everyone if ISPs ran a few more servers, like VOIP and instant messaging, which weren't client dependent. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.24-78.2.53.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines