I find that all the helpful desktops are anxious to start up 6000 daemons on your behalf, but not so good about cleaning them up. I finally wrote a little program I call "eradicator" I can use to start of things like a gnome session. It creates a magic environment variable which gets inherited by everything it starts, then when I want to end a session and be sure I take everything with it, I kill the immediate child of "eradicator", and it looks through all the processes on the system for the embedded environment variable and kills 'em all dead. A ridiculously giant hammer, but it squashes that gnat really good :-). (My original problem was leftover cruft from NX sessions that never went away). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines