Bill Davidsen venit, vidit, dixit 18.03.2009 23:52: > Michael J Gruber wrote: >> Todd Zullinger venit, vidit, dixit 18.03.2009 04:25: >>> William Case wrote: >>>> It has been reported by someone else as a medium level bug. See: >>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=470477 >>> Or see the changelog of NetworkManager-0.7.0.99-3: >>> >>> * Mon Mar 09 2009 Dan Williams <dcbw@xxxxxxxxxx> - 1:0.7.0.99-3 >>> - Missing ONBOOT should actually mean ONBOOT=yes (rh #489422) >>> >>> Bug #489422 is "No network after last NM update" >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/489422 >>> >>>> The bug comments gave me the following work around: >>>> >>>> The automatic wired network connection can be made to work by doing: >>>> >>>> "if and only if the flag ONBOOT in >>>> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 is set to "yes"" >>>> >>>> My ifcfg-eth0 file had ONBOOT=no; I changed it to ONBOOT=yes and now my >>>> Internet connection is made automatically on boot. >>>> >>>> I would think that this is more than a medium level concern, >>>> particularly for new users of Fedora 10. >>> Well, the levels aren't really used my many maintainers (though maybe >>> they are for RHEL bugs, which 470477 is...). But aside from that, the >>> NM release on Fedora fixes the bug that a missing ONBOOT parameter is >>> treated differently in NM than it was by the network service. I can't >>> see how having ONBOOT=no and NM not starting that device could be >>> construed as an NM bug though. It's perhaps a bug if some tool is >>> automatically writing the ONBOOT=no into the ifcfg file when it >>> shouldn't be. >> >> I'm sorry I have to disagree here, for two reasons: >> >> 1) People who installed F10 from DVD/CD have ONBOOT=no in their config >> because anaconda put it there. Their wired connections used to be >> brought up automatically by NM after logon, and this behaviour is >> *broken* now. A bugfix which breaks existing, desirable behaviour for >> existing users is a regression. >> > Do you see ONBOOT=no as a bugfix, and if so what bug? Every install probably > should ask if a NIC is present, and set to boot, never, or per-user via NM. No, the fact that NM looks at ONBOOT is a bugfix (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489398) which breaks existing users' autoconnect. > >> 2) ONBOOT really ought to be about what's happening on boot only. If >> ONBOOT=no, don't bring up the interface during boot. If NM is allowed to >> manage the device, NM should bring it up after logon no matter what >> ONBOOT says. [1] >> > That makes it hard to have devices defined which aren't brought up. It's more of > an interference between anaconda, network and NM, but I don't think ignoring > ONBOOT is a great way to solve it, not breaking the setting in the first place > seems more useful. I'm all for making things clearer in this regard (did I say doc?), for F11. I just don't think it's a good idea to break F9/F10 installations per update. > >> So, if you want to change the default, go ahead and change it >> consistently (anaconda+nm) for F11, but please don't break existing >> default F10 installations. >> >> Michael >> >> [1] NM used to list these devices as "auto eth0" with editable config. >> Now they are listed as "system eth0" which can't be edited. Maybe that >> is the real root of the new behaviour? >> > > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines