On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 17:05 -0500, Robert L Cochran wrote: > >> Part of the problem here is understanding the difference between the > >> network service and the NetworkManager service. The network service > >> will connect before you log in, while the NetworkManager service > >> connects after you log in. You normally want to run only one of > >> these services. I like the network service for servers and desktops, > >> and the NetworkManager service for laptops. (I need to be able to > >> connect to my desktop even if nobody is logged in.) You can have > >> both services running at the same time, but you have to make sure > >> you have the interfaces that you do not want NetworkManager to > >> control marked as such. > >> > >> > > To add to the discussion, NM doesn't connect to the network without a > > gui. That seems a rather shortsighted design. I found this the hard > > way today when my gui got screwed after an update and some ill > > considered tinkering. > > > What you and Mikkel say make me realize I'm the one who is the dummy > here. I was assuming that NetWorkManager will automatically connect to > my hidden wireless network after I did the setup work after choosing > System --> Administration --> Network, and supplying my network details. > Maybe that GUI has nothing to do with NetworkManager. But I didn't think > of this at the time. I saved the settings in that GUI, got a message > indicating I may want to restart my network, and without thinking that > the 'network' service is turned off in chkconfig for all runlevels > anyhow, I merrily typed away 'service network restart'. Ouch. > > It looks like I have to click the gui icon on the top right of my > desktop showing two computer monitors and then select either a visible > network name, or 'Connect to hidden network...' for the first time one > does a wireless connection. I'll reboot soon to see if it connects > automatically from here on. > > Apparently there is a settings file in > /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf that one can work with, but > mine only has the text > > [main] > plugins=ifcfg-fedora > > and there seems very little NetworkManager documentation to start with. > Maybe it is all in the wiki. The additional plugin should be called: keyfile -- ======================================================================= Shannon's Observation: Nothing is so frustrating as a bad situation that is beginning to improve. ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines