>> Part of the problem here is understanding the difference between the >> network service and the NetworkManager service. The network service >> will connect before you log in, while the NetworkManager service >> connects after you log in. You normally want to run only one of >> these services. I like the network service for servers and desktops, >> and the NetworkManager service for laptops. (I need to be able to >> connect to my desktop even if nobody is logged in.) You can have >> both services running at the same time, but you have to make sure >> you have the interfaces that you do not want NetworkManager to >> control marked as such. >> >> > To add to the discussion, NM doesn't connect to the network without a > gui. That seems a rather shortsighted design. I found this the hard > way today when my gui got screwed after an update and some ill > considered tinkering. > What you and Mikkel say make me realize I'm the one who is the dummy here. I was assuming that NetWorkManager will automatically connect to my hidden wireless network after I did the setup work after choosing System --> Administration --> Network, and supplying my network details. Maybe that GUI has nothing to do with NetworkManager. But I didn't think of this at the time. I saved the settings in that GUI, got a message indicating I may want to restart my network, and without thinking that the 'network' service is turned off in chkconfig for all runlevels anyhow, I merrily typed away 'service network restart'. Ouch. It looks like I have to click the gui icon on the top right of my desktop showing two computer monitors and then select either a visible network name, or 'Connect to hidden network...' for the first time one does a wireless connection. I'll reboot soon to see if it connects automatically from here on. Apparently there is a settings file in /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf that one can work with, but mine only has the text [main] plugins=ifcfg-fedora and there seems very little NetworkManager documentation to start with. Maybe it is all in the wiki. Bob >> Mikkel >> -- >> >> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. >> Q: Why is top-posting a bad thing? >> > > nice sig :P > > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
