Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx> writes: > Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >> Allen Kistler <an037-ooai8@xxxxxxxxx> writes: >>> So the question really is: Is there a reason localhost is not both >>> the IPv4 loopback and the IPv6 loopback (*other* than hiding some bugs >>> in some programs)? Or should Fedora (and eventually Red Hat) change >>> the default /etc/hosts shipped/created with anaconda? >> >> One of the first things I do on an install is get rid of the lame >> distribution /etc/hosts file. I've done this since fc4 and fedora, >> just like netbsd and openbsd has no need for the silly targeted >> localhost names. The other silly thing is the "localhost.localdomain" >> entry coming first. Really, what is that about??? "localhost" has >> worked just fine for over 2 decades. Software understands it. What >> advantage is there to rocking the boat? >> > Using the hosts file for the local name and the names of a few useful > hosts is protection against some fascist ISP deciding to block or DNAT > all DNS queries to the ISP servers. So they can block lookup of sites > they deem harmful. Oh, I guess I wasn't clear. I have a hosts file, I just object to the silly localhosts entries in the stock fedora one. (Especially the fact that the silly localhost*.localdomain name is first.) I've never liked using ISP's nameservers. They never seem to be set up right and are usually very old and buggy. Luckily I haven't been subjected to an ISP that blocks or steals port-53. If they did I'd certainly raise an unholy stink. As an aside I wonder if stealing and re-transmitting forged 53/udp and 53/tcp packets in a man-in-the-middle attack is the sort of attack the wiretap laws were meant to protect against. From what I understand, organized crime used to cut the analog telephone wires tap in and retransmit their own version of the signal in order perpetrate fraud. Stealing mouse clicks by re-routing traffic for some hostnames strikes me as a much milder form of the same fraud. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.full-steam.org/ (ipv6-only) You may need to config 6to4 to see the above pages. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines